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Steve Ackman
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CHARTER for rec.crafts.glass
PREAMBLE
The newsgroup rec.crafts.glass was created primarily
for the purpose of discussion related to working with
glass. In order to improve the mechanism whereby we
may do so without undue distraction, we, the netizens
of rec.crafts.glass, do hereby ratify the amendments
incorporated into this charter.
SCOPE
The following topics, for example, clearly fall within
the scope of our stated purpose:
- the working of glass in any manner including
stained glass
glass-blowing
neon and other luminous tube
casting
kiln forming and fusing
scientific/laboratory
flame-work and bead making
jewelry making
- equipment and tools
- techniques
- materials
- safety
- business issues
- announcements of conferences, classes, and shows
All discussions will be held in English. Posting in
other languages is allowed provided an English translation
is included.
Commercial announcements(*) will be permitted as
long as they are clearly marked as such in the subject
by the use of "FS:" "Ad:" or similar indication.
Such announcements must address events, goods, or
services specifically useful in one or more of the
pursuits listed above.
(*)An announcement is defined as a post regarding a single
event, or change. It does not include ongoing advertising.
DISCOURAGED
Flame wars or personal attacks.
Posting articles in HTML.
Excessively long signatures, i.e., longer than 4
lines, per common usenet netiquette.
PROHIBITED
Binary content. (Instead, posts should contain
links to relevant binary content)
Articles cross-posted to a non-relevant group or to
more than three groups total.
Articles which contain less than 10% original content.
Posts which consist primarily of a signature file.
Announcements for events, or advertisements for
services or goods which have no relevance to the
SCOPE.
Articles of a prurient or obscene nature.
Retromoderation in excess of usenet convention is
allowed only to enforce the provisions of this section.
FAQs
FAQ articles will be maintained on two unrelated web
servers. The URLs of the topmost FAQ page will be
posted to the group twice a month along with this
charter.
This amended charter was ratified on 31 Dec 2000 in an attempt to clarify
some grey areas not anticipated in the
original proposal.
Enforcement
Enforcement on Usenet is pretty hit-or-miss. The two methods which
are somewhat effective are 1) complaining to offenders' ISPs, and 2) issuing
a cancel message for the violating post.
Usenet is anarchical in nature, so enforcement is normally through peer pressure
and self-policing. The only people who enforce the rules are those
who care enough to do so. I find that many people who violate the
rules do so unwittingly. A simple e-mail pointing out which part of
the charter has been violated is often all it takes to make someone aware
of his indiscretion.
For those who refuse to respect the charter with a polite request, a complaint
to their ISPs often does the trick. Be sure to include the entire
message (including headers) with your complaint. As a rule, I include
the charter as well.
A complaint can therefore be as simple as a forward of the post, with an
attachment of the charter, and a simple statement/request such as, "This
was posted in violation of the charter for this group. Please take
whatever action is consistent with your TOS or membership agreement to insure
this doesn't happen again."
This action has varying results. Sometimes the offender's ISP will
warn him not to do it again or require him to post an apology. Sometimes
the offender's account will be canceled. Sometimes nothing at all
will be done.
Almost all ISPs have Terms Of Service or membership agreements which prohibit
the posting to newsgroups in contravention to the groups' charters, so this
approach is fruitful more often than not.
Now... for those who are serious enough to put in some time learning about
the format of usenet headers and what it takes to properly cancel an article,
that has more predictable, if not completely satisfactory,
results.(*)
When canceling posts because of non-compliance with a charter, the process
is generally known as retromoderation.
> Can you explain the above please? What is retromoderation,
> and who is doing it, and by what authority?
A moderated newsgroup is one in which all posts are sent to a single person
and, based on content, rejected or posted. The moderator has sole
discretion as to what is posted or rejected. While some people would
like to see rec.crafts.glass changed to a moderated group, that's a lot of
work, both to change an existing unmoderated group to moderated, as well
as the actual day-in and day-out moderation itself. In practice, if
an unmoderated group gets out of hand, a moderated one is started in addition
to the original rather than attempting to change the unmoderated group to
a moderated one.
Retromoderation is a less drastic measure, and simply means that when a group's
charter restricts content more stringently than the usenet-wide criteria,
those posts are allowed to be canceled.
As Usenet convention stands now, cancels are allowed by anyone in any unmoderated
group for a very limited number of transgressions. The MMF (make money
fast) post is one such, binaries (over a certain size) in a non-binary group
is another, and then there are complicated formulas for determining what
constitutes "spam," which are completely content-neutral, and based solely
on the number of substantially identical articles posted and how many groups
they're cross-posted to in a given period of time. There are a few
others, but those are the ones that immediately come to mind.
Anyone canceling messages outside these very narrowly defined parameters
is labelled a "rogue canceler" and will be forced to stop... one way or another.
Most cancel messages are actually issued by "cancel-bots."
(I should maybe point out that there may even be legal consequences for rogue
cancelers)
Retromoderation is a completely voluntary activity, and also one which must
be carefully considered, (imagine making a mistake and wiping out all posts
from a certain ISP rather than just the single one you wanted to cancel --
it's happened) so just because binaries in a non-binary group, for instance,
are *allowed* to be canceled, that doesn't necessarily mean that anyone will
actually get around to doing it. (As we saw with the recent chandelier
picture... though I never looked at the picture myself, I'm assuming it wasn't
done away with by a cancel-bot since I saw replies. I did ask the
author to cancel it himself, but he apparently ignored my request... or maybe
didn't cancel it for several days.) I should probably also point out
that anyone is allowed to cancel any of his own posts, and that most browser-type
newsreaders make that process point'n'click easy.
If canceling is something you'd like to investigate further, check out the
Cancel FAQ, part 1/4.
Parts 2 and 3, and the appendix are also there, linked to from
http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/usenet/cancel-faq/.html
(*) Cancel messages aren't honored by all ISP's,
so even if you send a properly formatted cancel message, some servers will
ignore it anyway.
Outside a fully moderated newsgroup, there's no way to prevent anyone from
posting whatever he wants (at least once). As long as there are a
few people who are willing to e-mail offenders (don't respond in the group),
then when/if that fails, e-mail the offenders' ISPs, and one or two people
willing and able to cancel the most egregious offenses, any group can remain
relatively free of those things which give usenet a bad name. |